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Episode 1835: Ren Sky at Knight


The simple way to indicate that a character should know some other one by reputation is to use the phrase "as you well know". This neatly summarises the concept of: "You've never heard of this character because you aren't immersed in the lore of the setting, but your character definitely knows who it is because everyone in this setting has heard of him - he's that badass."

So if you hear this coming from your GM, or indeed from some other player, roll with it.

Commentary by memnarch (who has not seen the movie)

Looks like the remainder of the villagers has been rounded up around that bit of machinery. At least the troopers are all properly holding their blasters now, and not looking like they just want to mow them down instantly. Or maybe this is just one of the various groups of villagers remaining; the picture is pretty small, but I don't think I can see a bloody hand print on any of these helmets.

Lor's got a reputation? For what, talking things out? He's obviously not a great fighter, otherwise there would have been less troopers standing around. Maybe I'm too young, but fighting or running would have been the smarter options in my book. Especially with a doom mark on my head.

Hm. Commander of the First Order and Leader of the Knights of Ren. Two different factions or just a fancy name for their military branch? I'm going to guess fancy name for the moment; being a leader of a whole faction seems like a bit much for a starting character, unless they're lacking in ability in other ways. Sally doesn't seem the type to min-max that way to me, as that's more of Pete's thing.

Bragging about how your enemy will never catch someone is just begging for them to do exactly that in the next few minutes. The only time you should do something like this is if it's going to distract the enemy and make them focus in the wrong area. And this isn't even counting that the character to catch here is being played by Jim!

Commentary by Keybounce (who has not seen the movie)

Happy Darths & Droids Day, everyone. It is May 4 as I write this, for an episode that will be published on May 5. And I wanted to see if the forums had anything to say on what I was saying before I did this. Nope.

So here we are, with Obi-Wan facing down Vader. I mean, Lor San Tekka facing down Kylo Ren. So far, this movie seems to have all been major plot elements we've seen in the other movies, just with a slightly different timing and pacing.

I could go into the much-repeated story of how all the stories in Hollywood are copies of other stories, or how this copying everything that came before you dates all the way back to Homer's Iliad. But I won't.

I could go into the discussion of the Ring Cycle, or how the story construction of the Ring Cycle applies to the first six movies, but I won't. Except to point out that so far, this movie seems to be... Well, not really following the same Ring Cycle construction. The old mentor facing the big bad and dying does not happen this early. It's almost like the people making this movie didn't really understand the timing and pacing of the original movies. Or the story construction.

I have yet to see if there will be any sign of understanding physics, but the forum assured me that in the original movie there was not. But we have seen The Comic Irregulars pull insane amazement out of this original source material before, and I'm looking forward to seeing this done again.

In this comic, we had a beautiful wide area shot of the poor civilians all being herded up by the troopers, not being shot. On the right-hand side, we see what looks like one trooper holding a red light saber.

Full stop.

We have what looks like a trooper holding a light saber. Would that be Finn?

All right, let's move on to the next panel. We've got some sort of device sticking what looks like 12 to 15 feet into the air (don't give me the metric system stuff. That, after all, was based on the circumference of the Earth, and it would be completely illogical to assume that a foreign planet would use anything even remotely close, yet our feet and their feet are just about the same.) We have the bad guy introduced as the leader of the "Knights of Ren".

The first time I saw this line, I was thinking of "The Knights of Ní". Of course, that's actually "The Knights Who Say Ní", so that wasn't even the right joke in the first place. We see that our bad guy, Mr. (or perhaps Mrs.) Ren has his/her own army. The implication is that the Galactic Empire is crumbling, like a post-Alexander-the-Great Europe. Each general, or commander, has their own armed forces, with no actual central command or oversight.

And in the final panels, we see what Lor San has in mind. Delay.

He's walking slowly up to Ren. He's taking his time talking to them. He's making sure that our PC has all the time he needs to get away. Of course, if he's not actually getting away, the next best thing to hope for is that enough of the forces withdraw to try to chase after him that he is able to get away, preferably in the opposite direction.

Which, sort of resembles the whole idea of "let's wait in the field of trash, and after the enemy ship has left then we'll take off".


Kylo Ren: Lor San Tekka. Your reputation precedes you.
Lor: And you are?
Kylo Ren: Ha ha. Kylo Ren, as you well know. Commander of the First Order, Leader of the Knights of Ren.
Kylo Ren: I seek Luke Amidala. A Resistance pilot came here for the same information.
Lor: I gave it to him. He’s gone.
Trooper: We’ll find him.
Lor: The hell you will. He’s got a two minute head start on you, which is more than he needs. Poe’s got friends in every town and village from here to Mos Eisley.
Lor: He speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom. He’ll blend in, disappear, you’ll never see him again. With any luck, he’s found Luke already.
Kylo Ren: That seems... optimistic.
Trooper: Maybe he’s just behind that sand dune.

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Published: Wednesday, 06 May, 2020; 04:14:15 PDT.
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